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Pinole City Council Approves Cell Phone Tower: What Do You Think Of The Decision?

Council members reversed last month's rejection of the tower after Verizon Wireless threatened to sue

Pinole City Hall
Pinole City Hall
The Pinole City Council voted 3-2 late Tuesday night to reverse itself and approve a 90-foot cell phone tower in a corner of Pinole Valley Park.

The Contra Costa Times reports the vote came shortly before midnight after several residents criticized Verizon Wireless as bullies.

Last month, the council voted 4-1 to reject a 25-year lease for the tower. The agreement provides the city with more than $26,000 a year in revenue.

However, Verizon threatened to sue, saying it had signed a valid lease with city officials six months ago.

Councilman Phil Green and Mayor Debbie Long voted against the lease at both meetings.

Councilman Roy Swearingen voted in favor of the agreement at both meetings.

On Tuesday evening, Councilmen Tim Banuelos and Peter Murray switched their votes from "no" to "yes."

Patch requested interviews with Long, Banuelos and Murray but had not heard back from them as of Wednesday evening.

What do you think of the decision? Let us know your thoughts in the comments section.

Kathryn July 23, 2013 at 01:44 PM
Unfortunately my term with the grand jury ended in June. If you feel strongly about your concerns of the city council or the city administrator, now would be an excellent time to write a complaint and ask the current grand jury to investigate. Since they have just formed for the current term, now is the perfect time to ask them to consider it. Right now they are debating areas they want to investigate. http://www.cc-courts.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page.viewpage&pageid=4186#matters
Angela Noel Machen July 23, 2013 at 04:44 PM
Sal, calling me RIDICULOUSLY SELFISH and SHORTSIGHTED?!? You don't even know me. It is clear that you cannot have a normal conversation with anyone with opposing views. Let us have a productive dialogue and quit with the HATE. I bet if I showed up to the city council meeting at least they would let me speak and not ridicule me for it. By the way, my family has lived in Pinole for over 50 years; I did grow up here and left after high school. I now live and work here. By the way, I never said you were wrong, I am sure I will hear more about city council. I just offered a different opinion about the cell tower.
SalthePlumber July 24, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Angela, I dont HATE. I simply use COMMON SENSE as a basis for advocacy. If my passions are being misconstrued, so be it. I am a strong believer of: "Of the People, By the People and For the People", when it comes to government...
Bill July 31, 2013 at 08:25 PM
50 people out of a population of 25,000 plus IS NOT the people of Pinole. So just because people cry about the 50 not being properly represented, guess the other 24,950 plus doesn't matter to them!!!! How about all the ugly and unsafe power lines that decorate that area??? Oh forgot it powers your houses and serves a purpose for YOUR needs so they are fine!!!!! Those same power lines are more dangerous and pose more of a health hazard than any cell tower!!!!!!!!!!
SalthePlumber July 31, 2013 at 08:50 PM
Bill, Pinole has about 20,000 people. Your figures are exagerrated as is your entire premise. Only 2 people spoke FOR the Cell Tower. How does that compute with your unusual method of computation. Cant wait to hear it...
Angela Noel Machen August 05, 2013 at 10:04 PM
As a Verizon customer, I received a text message from Verizon on 7/10/13 asking if I was in favor cell tower. One would think that those numbers was given to the council for consideration.
Angela Noel Machen August 05, 2013 at 10:07 PM
Just because they did not show up to the meetings does mean they did not support the cell tower......Here is the text message that I received and the other ways to support the cell tower. Free message from Verizon: Reply YES to support improved Verizon Wireless service along Pinole Valley Road from a new camouflaged treepole at the east end of Pinole Valley Park. Email SupportWireless@VerizonWireless.com to convey your support to the Pinole City Council at their July 16 meeting or for more info.
SalthePlumber August 06, 2013 at 12:14 AM
If you put a smiley face next to your account number, when you pay your bill, Verizon will know that you are a cherished customer. Look for a wink back on your next statement...
Kathryn August 06, 2013 at 12:47 AM
Being a bully again. Don't degrade Angela's opinion just because it defers from yours. Make your points, but do not belittle someone else's opinion. If you have facts, true facts, argue from that. If not, your outlook is opinion too, and you are being a bully.
SalthePlumber August 06, 2013 at 12:54 AM
I never mentioned Angela... I also know that in all of the posts youve made here, that you havent made any observations about the cell tower issue. You are just here to hissy over my Comments. Tell us something of substance. " I was on the Grand Jury" doesnt count...
Kathryn August 06, 2013 at 02:01 AM
I am for the cell tower. Now you can have a "hissy" over that.
Bill August 06, 2013 at 07:30 AM
Wow, smiley faces and winks, that is mature and a comment full of SUBSTANCE!!!!! I see some on here strongly believe in the " do as I say, not as I do" motto. Oh and I'm in favor of the cell tower also!!!!!!
Bill August 06, 2013 at 07:38 AM
Ok so 50 do not speak for the 18,961 residents of Pinole Salthe. The loud minority does not make them the sudden majority. Its done and over with now time to move on to more important thinks like the dumbing down of the kids in the liberal government controlled schools that we are forced to fund with crappy return on our money.
SalthePlumber August 06, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Well, Kathryn. You finally got off the fence. Now you and Bill and Angela can have a happy time with pointy hats on your heads. Help Bill with his spelling and numbers...
Bill August 06, 2013 at 11:18 AM
@ Salthe, there you go again, trying to belittle others that don't agree with your beliefs, how childish and liberal of you. Why don't you take your own advice and contribute something of value instead if trying to make yourself feel better by putting others down. I forgot, there isn't any other point if view but YOURS!!!!!!!
SalthePlumber August 06, 2013 at 12:20 PM
LOL
Angela Noel Machen August 06, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Sal, you mentioned in a previous post, “I am a strong believer of: "Of the People, By the People and For the People", when it comes to government...” I am sure you have heard of this quote before…… All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Since you are so unhappy with current city council, have you considered running for office yourself, rather than standing on your soapbox on the Pinole Patch and write 381 comments that are not going to make any difference in the lives of any Pinole citizens? If you are as passionate as you appear to be and you took all the NEGATIVE energy spout off here and turned it in to something POSITIVE, we may actually see real change in this city….. Just a thought…..
Angela Noel Machen August 06, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Thanks Kathryn & Bill for stepping up!!....Angie
Bill August 06, 2013 at 10:56 PM
Youre welcome. I think Sal is a hypocrite when he tells others if they can't bring anything substantial they shouldn't comment then he goes into his spoiled child rants trying to belittle others with different views. I've lived in this town for 39 years and have seen more important things that need to be done instead of worrying about a cell tower. For example the terrible education the kids are getting at the junior high and high school in this once proud town. The schools today are no better than an inner city school, except for a few elementary schools.
SalthePlumber August 07, 2013 at 01:14 AM
Bill. i have yet to hear one coherent argument for the Cell tower. Obviously you dont live near it, so you dont care. Am I right? Kathryn. You are for the cell tower, but havent told us one reason why. in case you havent read my earlier posts, here are some reasonms WHY we dont need this tower: 1) It is too close to houses. Houses that have children in them. They will be bathed in radiation from that cell tower by Verizon and any other company that rent tower space. It is the responsibility of ADULTS to protect their children 2) The loss of Property Values. You are looking to buy a house in Pinole. Do you want the one next to the cell tower or the one without the cell tower? 3) This cell tower is to be sited on Parkland with archeological potential. Not worth it. 4) Approval of this tower at this site was improperly handled by City Staff (malfeasance) and the City Council which claimed no knowledge of a lease signing prior to council approval. Either they did this backwards or just used a Stealth method to try to avoid opposition. Wrong way to conduct business and put the residents at the bottom of the Totem Pole. Bill this has NOTHING to do with Secxondary Education. Try another thread. Kathryn, tell us why we need this tower. Angela, I wont waste time with your ridiculous assertions. Sorry. So now what do you say?
Vanessa August 07, 2013 at 02:28 AM
I say the above paragraph Sal, is the 1st time I have agreed with you...just about totally. You broke it down and I would also say as I have previously, I believe City Council did know.. they are much too "close" to overlook "sharing" having signed a major corporation contract, and then kept that secret since 2010??? Sure!! I DO live on what will soon be the "wrong" side of the the last bridge out of town. I feel the families in the valley closest to the tower site were given No consideration in the least. No one knows what health issues will arise from living in the towers shadow. Our Park should not have been "sold" but Protected! As Sal stated, more importantly, our children are our (the it takes a village "our") to protect at all costs...even if it means some folks need to switch to AT&T which offers fine coverage throughout Pinole. I am frustrated at all of this..even with the opinions that Verizon customers were given a choice to vote by text..according to Verizon's spokesman at the last council 207 responded...ummm..thats not the thousand or more they polled. I don't think you can assume those that "didn't" respond voted Yes! Too bad the rest of the city didn't have this important information "arrive in their pockets"..if more people were aware of the underhanded council actions we should have a whole lot of new faces to watch on Pinole T.V..come election time. Please, yes, the city says they sent information in the mail..like most families I get a lot of mail that I skim over and toss. I could have missed the info. Why not make use of the message board at the High School when an important community issue, we all need to have a say in arises?? Or a Big Banner on the football field fence on P.V.Rd.? and a banner in Old Town across S.P.Ave...you know, where the Car Show banner goes...of course they want us to all participate in that! Bill, while I appreciate your interest in what is happening in the schools..perhaps you may want to speak to the new principle and volunteer your help to make those changes. I volunteered 2001-2008..when my sons attended and beyond. There is always a need for help. Once again city government ramrods their choice through..we citizens are are only an after thought. P.S. Lots of tree trimming going on this week on P.Valley Rd....is this routine or preparation for equipment to start work in the park. Someone who cares may want to check it out. Vanessa
Bill August 07, 2013 at 07:36 AM
Sal, that is because you haven't read all my post, your chance of being bathed in radiation crap is based on junk science, you get more radiation from your microwave and cellphones, do you use either of those items??Also I'm sure I have lived in the Valley longer than you. Also it seems you live by what might happen. Those powerlines that decorate the area are more of a hazard than that cell tower. Why is it now that you worry about the archeological potential and haven't done anything before about it? On the property values, the residents do a fine jib at keeping them low themselves by not maintaining their yards and homes, I rather live next to a cell tower than lazy people who can't keep their yards and houses clean, at least Verizon will keep the cell tower clean. Also Sal I see you made the same mistakes in grammer and spelling as I did earlier, are you going to belittle yourself now, as you did me?????
Kathryn August 07, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Sal, you are merely an internet troll. Internet trolls know no reason, they merely enjoy confrontation. I'm done with you, and I do not owe you any explanation of my reasons concerning this cell tower. You need help.
SalthePlumber August 07, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Kathryn, I never expected you to make a cogent argument for this cell tower. You are just a boo bird sitting on the fence, casting your Hissy fits and name-calling. I gave ayou an opportunity to respond to my points on this issue and you punked out...
SalthePlumber August 07, 2013 at 11:53 AM
Bill, I was typing fast and left the minor typos in my post to make you more comfortable reading it. Your arguments FOR the Cell are simply IRRATIONAL and I must put you in the same category of Angela. Both too dense to understand the issue...
Bill August 07, 2013 at 01:42 PM
Your comments actually show how dense and irrational you are and it supplies us all with a good laugh throughout the day. Let's see, cell towers will bath kids in radiation, hilarious and based on JUNK science. There MIGHT be archeological value, stupid because if we lived by what ifs and maybes the houses in the valley word of never been built. If it's the city you're mad at then file a lawsuit instead crying on here like a little baby. If you worry about the children's safety so much, maybe you should move away from power lines and give up your car. More kids die in car accidents than by bathing in cell tower radiation, moronic comment if the year by the way.Anyway thanks for the laughs with your STRAW-MAN argument you have there boy!!!!!!!!
LC August 07, 2013 at 04:00 PM
Thank you Bill for being the voice of reason. I completely agree with your point about property values being more affected by unmaintained yards than a cell phone tower that will be maintained by Verizon. Why do so many people in The Valley not give a flip about their yards? I'm not asking for Better Homes and Gardens, but would it kill someone to cut their grass and pull a few weeds? I regularly walk in the area and it amazes me at how many fronts yards are awful looking. I feel bad for the homeowners who try. It's difficult when your neighbors can't be bothered. The cars speeding down PVR are far more of a danger than the Tower ever will be. Sal doesn't want to hear about that though...
SalthePlumber August 07, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Thank you Bill for being the voice of lunacy. I completely disagree with you, because this is a thread about the cell Tower, not your front yard fantasies. Why dont you stand in the middle of PVR and force the cars to slow down, if thats really your concern...
Matt August 12, 2013 at 01:51 AM
Wow it did finally die down... this thread was hot and heavy there for awhile, thanks Sal and everyone else for raising awareness to this issue. I guess Bill's comment on Sal's yard must've finally got him. Ha ha jk Sal your yard is fine. I know Sal the plumber, he is my neighbor, we live near where this cell tower is proposed. We have a reason to be passionate about this issue. I didn't know good cell reception was something people got so passionate about. Sal lives for this stuff he can go all day!!
SalthePlumber August 12, 2013 at 05:59 PM
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